Bryon Gustafson

And pop guns.

And they didn't have those.

That's a whole nother conversation that you could go down.

But when you get I mean, you do that for so many years in your life and there's so much honor that comes with that and prestige and camaraderie.

And then you step out and I no longer have that as a part of my identity no more, nor do I have any type of job that would ever remotely come close to that.

There's a grieving process that has to happen with that.

Just giving up your job like you have to grieve and grieve.

cry and like feel like shit and like give yourself time to heal from that.

And then on top of that, one of the,

In my research, one of the saddest things I think is that a lot of humans will get it in their brain that the best thing that they could do for their family is to take their life, right?

Yes.

Why?

Personally, to me, with the intent of protecting.

Warriors, it seems in my, again, my experience, warriors through all cultures have always had honor and prestige.

They've always been lifted up.

And again, because of the nature of going and taking on your finest, our finest, we're in a fight so that this group of people gets to continue with its way of life.

right the bad guys are you know the men who are capable of doing nasty things so that the rest of us can sleep nice in our bed yes i think it should be honored i don't know that we do a good job of helping that on-ramp into the military right we're good at that and we're good at training the on-ramp out is where we're struggling uh native american cultures have

there's always been- Transition.

There's been evidence of that transition back into it.

And generally it revolves around shamans.