Burke Holland

So let's talk about the first one first, and we'll talk about the second.

So for my Greenfield projects, I've experimented a lot with composing workflows that allow me to get from, OK, I have nothing, and I want to get to this end point.

What are the things that I need to do along the way, and how involved do I need to be?

Because you have all these different, you have the agentic tool itself, whether that's VS Code or the Copilot CLI.

And then you have, or others, sorry, right?

Cursor, Cloud Code, there's many others.

And then you have like MCP servers, which is how your agent can talk to GitHub or how it can talk to Figma.

And then you have skills, which have serious overlap with MCP servers.

And then you have instruction files.

And then you have custom agents, which is you basically just overriding the agent behavior and defining workflows.

And it's all very confusing for people because...

Because they don't know what they're supposed to do with these things.

And the honest truth is that neither do the people who are building them.

We don't know what the future looks like.

All we can do is look at what building blocks we could create, create them, and then see how people put them together and then iterate.

That's the honest truth.

And so that's what I try to do is figure out what does a workflow look like for me.

So currently...

My workflow is I'm now fully into the Copilot CLI, using it within VS Code, but I start off with

um, a plan where I basically talk to the CLI and I, I tell it kind of what I'm, what I want.