C. Thi Nguyen

What crossing the finish line is, is doing it while following the rules, while following the constraints that force you into a particular kind of action, right?

It counts only if you did it in a specific way.

And I think what this reveals for suits is that game life is ones where the process, the specific process, are central to the value and central to the way of life.

So the contrast for suits from game life is practical life.

In practical life, there's something we want.

There's some outcome.

There's some product.

And we just want it by itself, and we don't care how we get it.

So we proceed by the most efficient means.

Games, we know that can't be how we value things because we're taking on these obstacles and we're putting them in the middle.

And then we're doing something really weird.

It's not just that we're being as inefficient as possible.

It's that we're trying to be as efficient as possible inside an unnecessary efficiency that we've thrown in our way.

And the reason we want to do that has to be because there's something incredibly valuable about trying to like dribble and dodge and like get that basket while people are trying to block us, right?

Or that there's something particularly valuable about ascending a cliff without using like ropes or ladders or spikes, but just with your hands or feet, right?

It has to be that that is the valuable thing.

So...

Yeah, go ahead.

The most interesting thing about games for me is that they teach us how incredibly fluid we are.

We think that we're these pretty static beings that want the same kinds of things, but you can literally open up a game and it will tell you