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C. Thi Nguyen

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1250 total appearances

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Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

Odyssey, and you want to speed run it, or you want to go on ultra easy mode, because that's the thing that suits you, you can do that.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

And I think, I mean, do we talk about Hobbes so far today?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

This is the thing...

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

that truly blew my mind.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

While I was researching the book, I was talking to some people and a political scientist casually mentioned to me that a lot of this was in Hobbes.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

And I was like, what?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

And what he taught me was that what a lot of people know about Hobbes is that Hobbes thought morality came from political power and the person that got to dictate morality was the tyrant who had the most political power.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

But what most people don't know is that Hobbes goes on to say what political power is.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

And he says, it's not military might, it's not strength of arms,

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

The ultimate power in the world is power over language.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

Because if you can tell people what success and failure mean, then you can control their actions from the inside.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

And this is what scoring systems are.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

They are ways of telling people what success and failure mean.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

And in games, in the natural ecosystem of games...

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

We have granular low-level control over those meanings.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

Games are a system that let you play around with meaning, and that just means try on different games, try on different scoring systems, wander that world.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

Metrics are a system that make authoritarianism and centralization of meaning determination

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

easy and possible so the answer is not like there's some games are good some games are bad it's that there's a natural flexibility to navigate the space of games to tailor something to suit your peculiarity in the game space um that is inimical to the kind of central rigid structure of large-scale institutional metrics

Plain English with Derek Thompson
How Metrics Make Us Miserable

I mean, that's a pretty good takeaway.