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C. Thi Nguyen

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Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

I mean, here's one way to put it, that the thing that I'm worried about is that we have substituted for our sense of reality that which can be quantified, metrified, and datified, and that we have put in front of us, instead of a sense of well-being or happiness, like some legible external tracker, and we become convinced that that's the real thing.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

Now, one thing I want to say, I'm not like, let me just

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

I'm not saying data is bad.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

I'm not like anti-science.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

I take my antibiotics.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

I believe in science.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

One of the things I think that's really important is that the large scale institutional methodologies I'm talking about, this kind of portability concept is very good at measuring some kinds of things.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

What they're very good at measuring is anything that's context invariant and easy for everyone to pick up on.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

So, for example, I mean, one of the reasons that I mean, this is vastly oversimplified, but one of the reasons that large scale database methods are good for basic medicine is because being alive or dying, that's very easy.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

That's stable across contexts.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

Similarly, bacteria leaving your system, right?

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

That's stable across contexts.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

That's exactly the kind of thing that large-scale database methods and quantitative methods are incredibly good at capturing.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

They're capturing a real thing and they're doing it perfectly.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

The problem is if there's something that's valuable, that's highly variable between contexts, that needs a lot of sensitivity to pick up on,

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

That's going to be the kind of thing that large scale data collection methods that demand portable, easily recognizable categories and recognition systems.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

That's going to be the kind of thing they're really bad at picking up on.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

This is why I like when I think about the kinds of things that we're not going to get good data on.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

I think about things like well-being, happiness, art, beauty, because not because these things are like ineffable, but because they're highly contextually variable.

Bankless
Playing the Right Games: Why Scores Quietly Replace Meaning | C. Thi Nguyen

Elizabeth Barnes is a philosopher of metaphysician who does a lot of stuff on philosophy of health and disability.