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Caitlin Dickerson

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The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

But there's also problems with access to legal representation with adequate food and sanitation and medical care.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

So the Trump administration is very much seeing this dramatic expansion of the detention system as an important part of immigration enforcement.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

That was a head-scratcher.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

It was one of the only caps that existed in the entire bill.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

Everything else seems to be about sort of limitless spending.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

So there's been a lot of churn on the immigration court since Trump took office.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

They've fired dozens of judges, mostly ones, it seems, who were granting too many requests for relief, requests to remain in the United States.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

and replacing them with people who they think will be more harsh.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

And you're seeing that reflected in the denial rates.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

So overall, asylum denial rates were around 50% when Biden left office, and now they're up to 84%.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

Immigration courts are a kind of choke point for deportations because you've got someone in custody, but if they have access to a legal remedy, then they're going to fight their case.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

And sometimes those cases take years.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

I think one thing that the cap on judges could reflect is that the Trump administration is trying to find ways that go around the immigration courts to remove people.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

So they're trying to expand the use of something called expedited removal, which allows for people to be deported without going before a judge and trying to fight their case.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

They want to be able to effectuate removals more quickly and just go around the courts entirely if they can.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

So my reporting was actually done on Zoom because immigration court was being done virtually so that it could go more quickly.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

It's something that started during the pandemic and that's continued into this administration as all messaging and goals and systems are being modified to effectuate deportations as quickly and efficiently as possible.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

So what I saw was a judge sitting in an empty courtroom and looking into boxes on her screen, calling people up and moving incredibly quickly through their cases.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

Most people in court that day were unrepresented by lawyers.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Staggering Scale of Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Crackdown

As people may or may not know, in immigration court, you don't have the right to an attorney if you can't afford one or to a jury of your peers.