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Caitlin Dickerson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
820 total appearances

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Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

Look at the calculation on the Democratic side.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

So Democrats aren't sticking their neck out for a population of people who by nature cannot vote, cannot vote for them.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

And I think not only can this constituency not vote, but Americans generally tend to really underestimate, I think, how interconnected we all are with the immigration system.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

That is being challenged right now.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

Becauseโ€”

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

People are seeing that they personally are affected by this deportation campaign, even if it's not someone in their family who's being arrested because their kid is scared because their kid's friend got arrested or their kid's friend's parent got arrested.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

Their church, you know, people aren't showing up for church.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

Their employees aren't showing up for work.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

Their patrons aren't showing up to buy things from them.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

So the interconnectedness is becoming more clear now.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

But generally speaking, I think what holds Democrats back is if you haveโ€”

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

two years or four years or maybe six years, depending on how long you might have the advantage in Congress, to push forward just a couple of priorities.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

Why are you going to focus on one that Americans tend to think of as for those people over there, not for us?

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

Even if the public is sympathetic to the issue, it's not going to be number one or number two on their list of concerns.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

So actually, something that Gallego has been one of the few people to talk about, I think, is largely absent from the conversation and is pretty key to how stuck we are, which is that we don't have a lot of legal pathways to the United States.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

And we especially don't have legal pathways to the United States for the jobs that we tend to rely on undocumented workers for.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

So construction, restaurant work, hospitality, domestic work, these jobs are dominated by immigrant workers and, by and large, do not have visas available to do them.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

I mean, we now have a couple hundred thousand guest worker visas for agriculture.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

We have millions of agriculture workers in the United States.

Today, Explained
Why both sides fail on immigration

And so he actually has talked at different times about a need for legal pathways and balancing that work.