Caitlin Dickerson
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It was interesting to see how Trump campaigned really fudging data and referring to everybody who came into the United States.
You're kidding me, him?
I know, it's a shock.
under the Biden administration as illegal, as unauthorized.
And, you know, it was just such a blatant misrepresentation of the reality when someone has, you know, for better or worse, whether you like this program, someone who's filled out an application, who's been invited to an interview, who's undergone an interview, and then after being vetted, allowed into the country to all of a sudden call them illegal is just such a bait and switch.
But we're also seeing now the Trump administration reopening refugees cases and trying to relitigate vetting that in that case can take years.
So it's not even just people without legal status.
It's sort of anyone that they can figure out a way to claw legal status back from as well.
You know, what I'm hearing now is just that people are living with a really high level of panic.
And that's exactly what the Trump administration wants.
And so people without legal status in moments like this keep in really close touch with one another.
You know, there are networks of communication.
People use WhatsApp.
People use Facebook to try to let one another know in advance information.
if someone has seen ICE or if a raid is going on.
I've talked to kids who've told me that they look outside in the morning before their undocumented parent goes to work and they watch them walk out the front door, walk to their car, and that they monitor their parents obsessively, like all day on Find My on their iPhones to just try to track their parents' location.
So it's just this 24-7 paranoia that people are dealing with.
And I've talked to law enforcement officials about this, too.
I mean, specifically talking about Renee Good's death, I spoke to a bunch of officials who reviewed the video there and said from the very beginning, you know, the first officer who runs up to her car, uses expletives, tells her to get out, starts trying to force open the door.
These officers said to me, there's no reason to not approach her and say, ma'am, can you shut off your car and please open the door?