Caitlin Dickerson

And that's, in fact, how you want to approach a civilian, someone who has never been arrested before, isn't used to being screamed at in the face by police.

But they're coming at people in these arrests with such aggression that it's making people panic.

And I think that is leading to some of the more violent incidents that we're seeing, you know, people getting hurt and thrown to the ground or worse.

One thing that can be helpful is that the Trump administration usually signals what they want to do before they do it.

So, for example, with Title 42, the COVID era border ban, Stephen Miller tried for years to figure out a way to completely cut off access to the southern border and shut down asylum.

And then finally, the COVID-19 pandemic came around and gave him the pretense that made White House lawyers say, OK, now is the time we can shut down the border.

I think something similar is happening with the Insurrection Act.

Trump has been threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act since his first presidency, and it's coming up again now.

And so I can see why you're saying that there's a perception that there's a desire to create the conditions that would justify something like that as an even further escalation.

I mean, we've seen so many.

I don't have the sense that individual ICE officers are being told, escalate things as much as possible.

Make sure things get violent.

You know, that would be pretty reckless and actionable legally.

But what I think we are seeing very clearly, and in Stephen Miller's message that you played a few minutes ago, is that the idea is do what you have to do.

Don't focus so much on the laws and the rules and civil rights.

Focus on getting people into custody at any cost.

So a lot of this is really being kept under wraps by the security contractors that are involved.

But from what we can see in the public requests for proposals, ICE is really increasing its use of facial recognition technology, both at the border and within the interior of the country today.

And then hiring companies like Palantir to collect as much data really to create almost dossiers on people drawing from their education records, their financial records, their social media accounts, utilities, etc.

And try to create files on immigrants and immigrants.