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Caitlin Dickerson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

But I noticed that people seem to be thinking of them as unique when, in fact, if you spend a day in immigration court, as I did, you will see that they're everywhere, that people who've been in the United States for decades, who have no criminal record, who are beloved members of their community, either because they're active in their church or they're business owners or they've been their boss's greatest employee for 20 years.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

These folks are going through immigration court every day.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

Most of them are going through court without a lawyer, which makes them far less likely to win their cases.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

I saw people who are being removed after all these decades in the United States and all these local community ties that they'd established because they simply didn't have the ability to be represented by a lawyer to try to fight back against their case.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

And they weren't getting the attention that these other individual cases were.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

So I think

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

The administration is adding to this kind of myopic view of the enforcement campaign in that they're talking about one particular city at a time.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

You know, first it was Chicago, then it was Los Angeles, then it was New Orleans, now it's Minneapolis.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

ICE is working like gangbusters across the country.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

And so it's really important to not forget that what's happening in Minneapolis is likely happening elsewhere too, and that we're just not seeing it.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

I would say that's something I think people should keep in mind.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

Even some of the president's staunchest supporters are really coming out and criticizing ICE's work now.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

This moment reminds me a lot of the years I spent reporting on family separations.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

You saw Republicans in Congress, some of the furthest to the right Republicans you can imagine, saying that this policy was abhorrent and that it needed to be outlawed.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

And then it was gone.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

The Trump administration got rid of it.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

I was reflecting over the weekend that I felt like we were heading into such a moment.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

very much an open question you know how big of a change are they going to make are they going to completely revamp ice's goals and give this deportation campaign a different look and feel and even language associated with it or are they going to put into place a temporary pause hoping that the intensity of criticism dies down and then really continue with business as usual

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

We don't know for sure.

Apple News Today
How ICE entered its most aggressive era โ€” and what comes next

And I think, frankly, nor does President Trump.