Caitlin V

And then, yes, exactly.

A structure.

And then if you're not able to, or that's not satisfying, or you find that you're not able to like complete the online course, you have ADHD like I do.

And so that's not the ideal framework for you.

Yeah.

Yeah, you know, I was first diagnosed at 18 and I was like, that's not me at all.

That's like, I was just kind of like, screw you.

no yeah totally my dad and my uncle used to tell me all the time ADHD is not real because open up your brain and tell me where the ADHD is and like there's no gene that has I mean this is you know two guys kicking back beers and saying this to a 12 year old but a lot of wisdom some

They were very wise men.

I love them, miss them every day.

So you find that the online course isn't for you, great, hire a coach.

The reason that I put this all down into a book with 75,000 words is because I wanted people to be able to access it in an even easier to afford format.

in a format that you need not sign into anything.

I mean, you can have it on an e-book or on an audio book, but like a format that you can just like, you can digest this even more so at your own pace.

The power can go out and you can have a single candle and you can still get this information.

Like just put it into as many ways as possible so that men can receive it.

The TV show, they found me on YouTube actually.

So for a while when I was kinda like coming up on YouTube, I would get casting calls on a pretty regular basis.

People would reach out to me and they'd say, you know, we're thinking about, we're developing a show on this or that, we wanna talk to you, we wanna film it.

You've gotten casting calls?