Cal Newport

And the latest report they put out in 2025 now has the interruptions on average once every two minutes.

So it's just gotten out of control.

So switching to a communication tool once every two minutes.

They also found in the latest report, and this is depressing to me as well, there's one time in the week where they see a notable rise in the use of the non-communication.

So actually using the core productivity tools like Word or PowerPoint, and it's Saturday and Sunday morning.

So we've just...

put the work off until the weekend when there's no expectations of responses and spend the actual weekdays talking about work.

which I just don't get.

That is not economically productive.

Companies are leaving money on the table, but it's just where we are.

We really can't quit this behavior.

It wasn't big.

It wasn't out yet.

I talk in Deep Work about these very early instant messenger tools that no longer exist, like HipChat.

It was just emerging among the programmer class.

I was basically saying, there be dragons, like, let's be careful about that.

But I wrote an article about Slack

years later when Slack was bought.

So I think Salesforce bought Slack.

I wrote an article about it for the New Yorker.