Cal Newport

And because of that, we just have to run around busy.

And she's like, you can do more with your existing schedule than you think if you're just a little bit intentional about how you use your time.

You can actually get a lot of fulfillment out of your life without having to drastically reduce time.

what's going on in your life.

And he's comparing this.

The first thing Tyler's doing is comparing that to Paul Graham's maker schedule versus manager schedule.

I don't know.

We've talked about this essay before.

It's really famous.

It's from like 20 years ago.

I mean, basically his idea is makers like computer programmers need long stretches of uninterrupted time.

Managers, however, want to jump into a lot of meanings and catch up with what's going on with things.

And these two scheduling philosophies are in conflict.

And when the makers are forced to try to interface with manager schedules, the makers get miserable and can't produce stuff.

All right.

So I guess he's saying the maker schedule seems to be something that the importance of a maker schedule is maybe contrasting to Laura's idea that like you have enough time, you just have to make better use of it, right?

You don't need to drastically simplify things.

Laura's not talking about, so to respond to this first point, Laura's not talking about

She's not saying you should be very frenetic at work and just jumping back and forth between meetings and email and you don't need long stretches of deep work.

If your work requires depth, I produce complicated computer code.