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Cal Newport

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Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

It's distracting, it's context switching, you can't do anything deep, it's hard to produce value.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

But if that's the way you're going to work,

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

Email clients are not a very good tool for that.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

You have threads and it's clunky and it's hard to search through your email and find what you did before.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

So Slack came along and said, look, if this is the way you're going to work, hyperactive hive mind, constant back and forth, ad hoc coordination, we'll build you a better tool for that.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

So that's why people both love and hate Slack.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

It's a really good tool for that style of collaboration.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

It works really well, but that style of collaboration makes us miserable.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

So it's this weird love-hate relationship we have.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

Like, this works great.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

I hate the thing that is making it easier.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

Because our brain isn't meant to switch our target of attention that quickly.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

It just takes us a long time if we're talking about targets that are abstract and symbolic.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

It takes us a long time to switch from one to another.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

Physical world targets, we can switch quickly, right?

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

We're wired for that.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

If there's a tiger's roar...

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

I can, boom, 100% attention what's going on over there.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

But when we're thinking about abstract things, information, ideas, things that are symbolic and in our head, that's us.

Modern Wisdom
#1067 - Cal Newport - The collapse of modern attention (and how to get it back)

We're basically reappropriating our brain hardware to do something we're not evolved to do.