Caleb Gilbert

Yeah, you better have your ducks in a row when you're getting ready.

Oh, man, I can't even fathom it.

There's just...

For people who've never been over there, I haven't spent an immense amount of time, but again, growing up that close before the dot-com boom, and then just seeing what was happening, it was a little wild.

Most people will never, probably a combination of two things.

One, will never probably get to a place in their life where they feel like they need EP of any kind.

Or two, probably wouldn't be able to afford it.

It's not cheap.

I don't know the exact cost of this stuff, but I mean, you can, it's expensive for what you're paying for, especially what you're talking about.

Full-time agents, emphasis on the S at the end of that.

So not singular, but multiple, unless you want to burn somebody down to their bones.

What, so for the vast majority of people though, one of the things that I, and I don't live in this world professionally, but

And I'm not saying it's the phone's fault, but one of my favorite, saw it again recently.

It's an artist who takes pictures and they Photoshop the phones out of people's hands.

And so everybody's posture is just down.

Situational awareness is low.

And I think a lot of people don't even recognize the risk that they are sometimes inadvertently exposing themselves to.

Where...

And for me, I like practical things that can have an impact.

For somebody who works in this world, and again, the challenge is for an everyday person.