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So you're saying that because I'm not aggressively going, it might not be the right strategy to tell on day one to put everyone in Guantanamo Bay and mass bans to achieve the result that you're looking to achieve. That's what I would just ask you. I think there is a difference, and I believe that in your guy's head that me thinking about the strategy is a sign for suspicion. Yeah.

There's no question. But you have a different goal than we do. No, no, no. I don't know. I actually don't know if that's true. Did we convince you? No, no. Hold on.

There's no question. But you have a different goal than we do. No, no, no. I don't know. I actually don't know if that's true. Did we convince you? No, no. Hold on.

There's no question. But you have a different goal than we do. No, no, no. I don't know. I actually don't know if that's true. Did we convince you? No, no. Hold on.

I am focused on... I mean, what drives my passion is talking about a multi-dimensional front on kids that includes a richer and richer data points. That's what I'm passionate about. I'm not passionate about going in podcasts and arguing that one thing is more important than the other.

I am focused on... I mean, what drives my passion is talking about a multi-dimensional front on kids that includes a richer and richer data points. That's what I'm passionate about. I'm not passionate about going in podcasts and arguing that one thing is more important than the other.

I am focused on... I mean, what drives my passion is talking about a multi-dimensional front on kids that includes a richer and richer data points. That's what I'm passionate about. I'm not passionate about going in podcasts and arguing that one thing is more important than the other.

And I do, and we've talked about this, I do think that, you know, what's happened to ultra processed food with kids is a really important issue. I'm not trying to even stack rank that. The book actually very importantly says food is very important, but it doesn't stack rank. It actually says there's a multidimensional threat.

And I do, and we've talked about this, I do think that, you know, what's happened to ultra processed food with kids is a really important issue. I'm not trying to even stack rank that. The book actually very importantly says food is very important, but it doesn't stack rank. It actually says there's a multidimensional threat.

And I do, and we've talked about this, I do think that, you know, what's happened to ultra processed food with kids is a really important issue. I'm not trying to even stack rank that. The book actually very importantly says food is very important, but it doesn't stack rank. It actually says there's a multidimensional threat.

No, no, no. Well, so, so I would say you can't back away from it. It doesn't have the word vaccine in it once.

No, no, no. Well, so, so I would say you can't back away from it. It doesn't have the word vaccine in it once.

No, no, no. Well, so, so I would say you can't back away from it. It doesn't have the word vaccine in it once.

Hold on. The book was turned in, yeah, like before like 2021, 2022. The book, absolutely. And this isn't like some secret like strategy. It's like, we didn't want to talk about the COVID vaccines in the book. That wasn't even discussion I had with anybody. It's just like, that was not the purpose of the book.

Hold on. The book was turned in, yeah, like before like 2021, 2022. The book, absolutely. And this isn't like some secret like strategy. It's like, we didn't want to talk about the COVID vaccines in the book. That wasn't even discussion I had with anybody. It's just like, that was not the purpose of the book.

Hold on. The book was turned in, yeah, like before like 2021, 2022. The book, absolutely. And this isn't like some secret like strategy. It's like, we didn't want to talk about the COVID vaccines in the book. That wasn't even discussion I had with anybody. It's just like, that was not the purpose of the book.

It was never a discussion with me and Casey. Never discussion with people who do podcasts.

It was never a discussion with me and Casey. Never discussion with people who do podcasts.

It was never a discussion with me and Casey. Never discussion with people who do podcasts.

Hold on. Okay, sure. Never discussed with me and Casey. Never a discussion with our publishers. Self-centric. I don't know. But but like I would say. you know, that wasn't what we were trying to write about. Like, like we were trying to make, we were trying to write a book for a parent who is totally in the dark about this shit. And we talked about this, that that book could be a gateway to,