Cameron Hanes

And so, yeah, it's definitely different because a lot of times people, when life just happens and you're like, why me? Yeah. That's usually what people, the attitude people have is, why is this happening to me? Like the victim mentality? The victim mentality. But if you're accustomed to like, yeah, this sucks, this is going to hurt, but I've been through a lot, a lot of things like this.

We're going to just get through this suffering, just like the other one, whether it was I created it myself or it just happened, suffering is suffering, we're getting through it. So I think it does make you stronger regardless of how it came about.

We're going to just get through this suffering, just like the other one, whether it was I created it myself or it just happened, suffering is suffering, we're getting through it. So I think it does make you stronger regardless of how it came about.

We're going to just get through this suffering, just like the other one, whether it was I created it myself or it just happened, suffering is suffering, we're getting through it. So I think it does make you stronger regardless of how it came about.

I mean, everybody, I'm fascinated by every person for a different reason, but It's always the endurance athletes. I mean, it's a Sally, Taylor, of course, Courtney, Max, Cat Bradley. I don't know. You just have to go through so much and it just makes... I don't know, it just makes a deeper, more impactful human, I think, when you subject yourselves willingly to challenges like that.

I mean, everybody, I'm fascinated by every person for a different reason, but It's always the endurance athletes. I mean, it's a Sally, Taylor, of course, Courtney, Max, Cat Bradley. I don't know. You just have to go through so much and it just makes... I don't know, it just makes a deeper, more impactful human, I think, when you subject yourselves willingly to challenges like that.

I mean, everybody, I'm fascinated by every person for a different reason, but It's always the endurance athletes. I mean, it's a Sally, Taylor, of course, Courtney, Max, Cat Bradley. I don't know. You just have to go through so much and it just makes... I don't know, it just makes a deeper, more impactful human, I think, when you subject yourselves willingly to challenges like that.

Not many people want to do that. Right. But if they do and they can, I don't know, just kind of live through it, face the fire and live through it, those are the type of people that impact me. And, you know, out of all of them, Taylor just, you know, he's my younger brother. So we've been through a lot. I was older, so I wasn't I was like super hard on him always growing up.

Not many people want to do that. Right. But if they do and they can, I don't know, just kind of live through it, face the fire and live through it, those are the type of people that impact me. And, you know, out of all of them, Taylor just, you know, he's my younger brother. So we've been through a lot. I was older, so I wasn't I was like super hard on him always growing up.

Not many people want to do that. Right. But if they do and they can, I don't know, just kind of live through it, face the fire and live through it, those are the type of people that impact me. And, you know, out of all of them, Taylor just, you know, he's my younger brother. So we've been through a lot. I was older, so I wasn't I was like super hard on him always growing up.

But but aside from Taylor, probably Courtney, just because her I don't know, she I can't figure her out. Can you tell when she's suffering or not? No, I can't. Well, yeah, I've seen her struggling, really struggling, like on the Colorado Trail. She's trying to get the fastest on time there. But normally, no. Like when she came out, we did three days. We did 100 miles.

But but aside from Taylor, probably Courtney, just because her I don't know, she I can't figure her out. Can you tell when she's suffering or not? No, I can't. Well, yeah, I've seen her struggling, really struggling, like on the Colorado Trail. She's trying to get the fastest on time there. But normally, no. Like when she came out, we did three days. We did 100 miles.

But but aside from Taylor, probably Courtney, just because her I don't know, she I can't figure her out. Can you tell when she's suffering or not? No, I can't. Well, yeah, I've seen her struggling, really struggling, like on the Colorado Trail. She's trying to get the fastest on time there. But normally, no. Like when she came out, we did three days. We did 100 miles.

think we did something like 20 summits in three days. Never saw her one time tired, anything other than smiling. I'm miserable pretty much the whole time. Maybe not the first half of the first day. But yeah, I just don't know. Because if you look at maybe time, I don't know what her fastest time would be on a marathon, but whatever. Probably fast now. But

think we did something like 20 summits in three days. Never saw her one time tired, anything other than smiling. I'm miserable pretty much the whole time. Maybe not the first half of the first day. But yeah, I just don't know. Because if you look at maybe time, I don't know what her fastest time would be on a marathon, but whatever. Probably fast now. But

think we did something like 20 summits in three days. Never saw her one time tired, anything other than smiling. I'm miserable pretty much the whole time. Maybe not the first half of the first day. But yeah, I just don't know. Because if you look at maybe time, I don't know what her fastest time would be on a marathon, but whatever. Probably fast now. But

Speed-wise, maybe we're about the same, right? Just say that. How can she just keep doing these nine-minute miles in the mounds forever? How? If it's physical, I mean, I got more muscle. We can run short distance the same. I don't know how she can just keep doing that. She fascinates me on just getting in that. She talks like... like a robot. She wants to be a robot one step at a time.

Speed-wise, maybe we're about the same, right? Just say that. How can she just keep doing these nine-minute miles in the mounds forever? How? If it's physical, I mean, I got more muscle. We can run short distance the same. I don't know how she can just keep doing that. She fascinates me on just getting in that. She talks like... like a robot. She wants to be a robot one step at a time.

Speed-wise, maybe we're about the same, right? Just say that. How can she just keep doing these nine-minute miles in the mounds forever? How? If it's physical, I mean, I got more muscle. We can run short distance the same. I don't know how she can just keep doing that. She fascinates me on just getting in that. She talks like... like a robot. She wants to be a robot one step at a time.

She talks about her pain cave. We talked about that in great detail recently on my podcast where she's not thinking about running. She's thinking about just hitting this chisel with a hammer.