Cameron Hanes

And they've talked about, like, I mean, I know there's Americans who would volunteer to do it, but that's another part of it is this next generation just isn't hunting.

And I would say it's only went up since then.

Here's one other search, Jamie.

Can you see how many mountain lions were taken in Oregon?

legally because that would be like oregon's of course just right north of california let's compare the legal harvest uh in or in a state that we can't use dogs but you can kill them when you see them and you can buy a tag in the season that's that it's very difficult to kill them right if you can't use dogs the season to do that they have to have the season open all year and they just hope enough for getting killed but then they still have to kill deprivate depredation

Yeah, that's it.

So we were hoping, you know, if you see one, basically I have a bear tag, lion tag, deer and elk.

So it says in Oregon that we could kill 970, but they never kill that many.

480 depredation incidents.

That seems kooky.

But that's for like a ranch owner to do the killing.

So they say, hey, this lion's been killing my calves 480 times.

And 222 of those, they said, okay, go ahead and kill the lion.

Right, right.

So you would add this total to the other number we have.

No, no.

Yeah, to people who have livestock that's been lost.

Yeah, they would call it something other than depredation.

Yeah, or snare.

Like in Oregon, Wayne has done this where people, they're losing their goats, their calves, something like sheep, something like that.