Cameron Hanes

And I think that does impact the taste of the meat, too, if you don't have them shoot that adrenaline back through their body where it's a peaceful death.

I think it does impact the taste.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They put a bolt in our head, but yeah, I mean.

Definitely.

No, but like even like when they kill cattle, they're not getting those things wound up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's just that's what I told Joey is that, you know, you can wander around off the path for your whole life and never really have like fucking never, never really figured it out.

But once you make it like like where he's on, you know, being healthy, eating better, exercising, you know, the mountains have given him strength.

I always say the mountains heal or nature heals.

So he's there now.

It's like, yeah, of course, there's people who are way ahead because they've been on it longer.

There's people who are not quite on it.

Maybe they're going to be faster than him and they pass him.

But all on the right path, head in the right direction.

That's a beautiful place to be.

And that's where he's at.

I think that Jilly Roll might... I mean, I think we've talked about this, but could he impact more people than anyone ever has in that regard?