Cameron Hanes

You can do it if you want.

And you can say it's going to help in these other areas.

I mean, it's cool, and it's nice, and it looks—I've never used one, so I mean, I guess I have a few times, but I just was like, just thinking about it, like, no, it's not helping me.

Yeah.

I know.

I don't know, but Tom Miranda, that's old school.

So you're looking at, I mean, he's still out there getting it done, but that's, I mean, that's history.

It's altitude training.

Technology.

That is useful because, I mean, that's what athletes do.

They go to high altitude training in the mountains and then they come down to lower elevation where there's more oxygen and there's more oxygen available to push themselves harder.

Yeah.

So their body's used to that.

It created more red blood cells, essentially.

I think it's like a natural—I think that's what EPO, they say, does.

So it's a natural way to do that.

And, yeah, I mean— It just doesn't stay very long.

Is that right?

Why would they say not to overdo it?

Because when they go train at altitude, they're up there the whole time.