Cameron Hanes

That's right. That's right. Yeah.

He's... Yeah, he's a machine right now. You know, it's weird because I get credit for my kids, you know, and they're like, oh, you must have done such a good job. I didn't. I mean, I pushed those boys way too hard. I mean, I was just, I didn't know what the hell I was doing. I was young. I was in my 20s. So I didn't know how to be a dad. My dad was never around.

He's... Yeah, he's a machine right now. You know, it's weird because I get credit for my kids, you know, and they're like, oh, you must have done such a good job. I didn't. I mean, I pushed those boys way too hard. I mean, I was just, I didn't know what the hell I was doing. I was young. I was in my 20s. So I didn't know how to be a dad. My dad was never around.

He's... Yeah, he's a machine right now. You know, it's weird because I get credit for my kids, you know, and they're like, oh, you must have done such a good job. I didn't. I mean, I pushed those boys way too hard. I mean, I was just, I didn't know what the hell I was doing. I was young. I was in my 20s. So I didn't know how to be a dad. My dad was never around.

I hated my stepdad, so I knew I definitely didn't want to be like him, but I didn't know what a dad was supposed to be. And I'm like, well, okay, I'm just going to prepare these kids. I know how life is. I know life will fucking kick you in the nuts. So they're going to be ready for anything. Life is competition. They're going to be ready to compete.

I hated my stepdad, so I knew I definitely didn't want to be like him, but I didn't know what a dad was supposed to be. And I'm like, well, okay, I'm just going to prepare these kids. I know how life is. I know life will fucking kick you in the nuts. So they're going to be ready for anything. Life is competition. They're going to be ready to compete.

I hated my stepdad, so I knew I definitely didn't want to be like him, but I didn't know what a dad was supposed to be. And I'm like, well, okay, I'm just going to prepare these kids. I know how life is. I know life will fucking kick you in the nuts. So they're going to be ready for anything. Life is competition. They're going to be ready to compete.

So I pushed them really hard, and it was not great all the time. How so?

So I pushed them really hard, and it was not great all the time. How so?

So I pushed them really hard, and it was not great all the time. How so?

Um, you know, it was just always a battle. It's just like, you know, it's, we're running every day. You guys got home from school. Okay. Get your stuff on. We're going to go do Pisgah. No kid wants to go run a mountain. And I'm like, no, this is because the way I thought it thought it of, of it was I had a terrible childhood, but it made me tough. So I'm like, you guys have everything.

Um, you know, it was just always a battle. It's just like, you know, it's, we're running every day. You guys got home from school. Okay. Get your stuff on. We're going to go do Pisgah. No kid wants to go run a mountain. And I'm like, no, this is because the way I thought it thought it of, of it was I had a terrible childhood, but it made me tough. So I'm like, you guys have everything.

Um, you know, it was just always a battle. It's just like, you know, it's, we're running every day. You guys got home from school. Okay. Get your stuff on. We're going to go do Pisgah. No kid wants to go run a mountain. And I'm like, no, this is because the way I thought it thought it of, of it was I had a terrible childhood, but it made me tough. So I'm like, you guys have everything.

You have everything I ever wanted. Your dad's around. Your mom is here. She loves you. You have every shoe you want, every basketball camp you want to go to, you go to. I said, so the way this is going, you're going to grow up to be a couple of big pussies. we're going to make you tough. So I would just make them do hard things.

You have everything I ever wanted. Your dad's around. Your mom is here. She loves you. You have every shoe you want, every basketball camp you want to go to, you go to. I said, so the way this is going, you're going to grow up to be a couple of big pussies. we're going to make you tough. So I would just make them do hard things.

You have everything I ever wanted. Your dad's around. Your mom is here. She loves you. You have every shoe you want, every basketball camp you want to go to, you go to. I said, so the way this is going, you're going to grow up to be a couple of big pussies. we're going to make you tough. So I would just make them do hard things.

And, and, uh, I made it, they both did half marathons when they were seven and eight years old. True. It just put up a picture. He looks like he's this tall. He was tiny at eight years, eight years old, but he ran a one 54 half like this tall, which is eight something minute miles. And, um,

And, and, uh, I made it, they both did half marathons when they were seven and eight years old. True. It just put up a picture. He looks like he's this tall. He was tiny at eight years, eight years old, but he ran a one 54 half like this tall, which is eight something minute miles. And, um,

And, and, uh, I made it, they both did half marathons when they were seven and eight years old. True. It just put up a picture. He looks like he's this tall. He was tiny at eight years, eight years old, but he ran a one 54 half like this tall, which is eight something minute miles. And, um,

All that to say that, yeah, I had the kids do really hard things for many years to prepare them for what I said was life's challenges. And it made it, you know, if I was, it reminded me, did you ever see the movie Tree of Life?