Cameron Hanes

right so what that means is we're not meeting our objective of lion kills that means there's more and more lions every every year don't they factor that into the amount of tags they give though that there's going to be a limited amount of success so they'll give more tags than there will be like then they actually need to kill for lions or for for lions to do that oh yeah i mean i'm not sure how that how they do it it's supposed to be like a balance you know i mean if if but the

What happens is not enough lions are getting killed, so there's too many lions.

So that means the lions are killing too many deer.

No, because the lion number is too high.

And that's what's kind of happening.

There's areas in Oregon that were great hunting at one time that are terrible now.

Yeah.

And what the people in L.A.,

that they have no idea what's going on, but they're voting.

That's who controls.

And voting with their hearts.

Right.

That picture is insane.

That's right above where Huberman used to live.

How sick of a photo is that?

Yeah.

And it's all camera traps.

Yeah.

So but here's what's so critical.

And, you know, hunters, we can be our own worst enemies.