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Cameron Herold

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714 total appearances

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Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

I built it. Yeah. I took them from 14 employees. I took them from 14 to 3,100 in six and a half years as their COO.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

Yeah. Brian was 12 years getting to 2 million in revenue. So he started in 1989. I joined in 2000. He got it to 2 million. And then I helped take them from two to 106 million in the next six years. So then it was a massive company. So your question around, what was it, around education or?

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

Yeah. Brian was 12 years getting to 2 million in revenue. So he started in 1989. I joined in 2000. He got it to 2 million. And then I helped take them from two to 106 million in the next six years. So then it was a massive company. So your question around, what was it, around education or?

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

Yeah. Brian was 12 years getting to 2 million in revenue. So he started in 1989. I joined in 2000. He got it to 2 million. And then I helped take them from two to 106 million in the next six years. So then it was a massive company. So your question around, what was it, around education or?

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

Yeah, I would not look for somebody who has education. I only want experience. So I'll give you an example. You know how to do breaststroke, front crawl, back crawl, and butterfly, right? You know how to do them. Do you know how to win an Olympic record or win an Olympic gold?

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

Yeah, I would not look for somebody who has education. I only want experience. So I'll give you an example. You know how to do breaststroke, front crawl, back crawl, and butterfly, right? You know how to do them. Do you know how to win an Olympic record or win an Olympic gold?

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

Yeah, I would not look for somebody who has education. I only want experience. So I'll give you an example. You know how to do breaststroke, front crawl, back crawl, and butterfly, right? You know how to do them. Do you know how to win an Olympic record or win an Olympic gold?

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

Yes, you do. Be faster than everybody.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

Yes, you do. Be faster than everybody.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

Yes, you do. Be faster than everybody.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

Right. And you know how to win an Olympic or to set a world record.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

Right. And you know how to win an Olympic or to set a world record.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

Right. And you know how to win an Olympic or to set a world record.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

And you know how to be in a team event, but you've never done any of those. So why would I hire someone who knows how to do it versus someone that has done it? I would rather hire an Olympian who broke a world record, who won an Olympic gold, who competed in all events versus someone who knows how to do it. It's really easy to read all the books. That's knowledge.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

And you know how to be in a team event, but you've never done any of those. So why would I hire someone who knows how to do it versus someone that has done it? I would rather hire an Olympian who broke a world record, who won an Olympic gold, who competed in all events versus someone who knows how to do it. It's really easy to read all the books. That's knowledge.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

And you know how to be in a team event, but you've never done any of those. So why would I hire someone who knows how to do it versus someone that has done it? I would rather hire an Olympian who broke a world record, who won an Olympic gold, who competed in all events versus someone who knows how to do it. It's really easy to read all the books. That's knowledge.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

But I would rather hire someone that has actually done it before. And there's a real bias now against MBAs to hire people that have actually done it before. Most of the Bay Area tech companies are biased against education now, unless you have the education and the practical experience to back you.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

But I would rather hire someone that has actually done it before. And there's a real bias now against MBAs to hire people that have actually done it before. Most of the Bay Area tech companies are biased against education now, unless you have the education and the practical experience to back you.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

But I would rather hire someone that has actually done it before. And there's a real bias now against MBAs to hire people that have actually done it before. Most of the Bay Area tech companies are biased against education now, unless you have the education and the practical experience to back you.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Unleashing Entrepreneurial Success with Cameron Herold: Vision, Leadership, and Personal Growth

And I think that explanation of the swimmer is a really good data point or a really good example that illustrates that.