Candice Bergen

That's what we ate.

What was the daily routine like for Jane?

Well, she would follow the chimps.

Okay.

And baboons or just chimps?

No, she was not a bab person.

In order for Jane to get funding for her research station, which she needed to fund, she had to agree with Stanford to accept a certain small amount of students who were studying that kind of biology, animal biology.

So some of the students were BAB students, which was not considered these.

That was the lesser?

It was a lesser group.

It was like sort of you didn't want to belong to the BAB group, even though the BABs were more interesting because they were lively and they moved around.

They were livelier than chimpanzees?

Oh, yeah.

Chimpanzees would sit for hours and groom.

They would pick fleas off each other and eat them like Ritz crackers.

So it was much more lazy and relaxing to be a chimp person, even though they were at the top of the heap.

So Jane Goodall was a chimp person and she would only do chimps, but the other Stanford students that she liked less were the BAB people.

I don't know that she chose the people to go in those groups.

And I don't think she would have expressed favoritism in that way.

But yes, there was a definite sort of we look down on the BAB people.