Candice Bergen

Well, I was interested in reading the article because you talk about how Jane borrowed parenting techniques from the baboons and the chimpanzees.

What were those?

Well, for instance, she had her son Grub, Grublin, I think his full name was, and he grew up on Lake Tanganyika, and he didn't have any other kids there, so he would play often with chimps and babs, and he would branch wave, which is a classic sort of chimp courtship, and so I would see Grub sort of branch waving at a chimp down the beach.

Where's Grub now?

Well, he's probably 50 or more.

Did that give you any insight into parenting?

No.

You've got guts.

Were you ever regretful that you stopped doing photojournalism?

You know, I wasn't good enough to keep doing it and to do it at the level I wanted to do it.

But I loved when I was doing it, and I worked for the Today Show, which I love, because I would do a different piece every week.

I did the Ku Klux Klan and Muhammad Ali, who was really interesting and fun to do.

I did sort of who I wanted, which was great.

And you're supposed to be doing a book of your photos.

Am I?

How's that going?

It was due during COVID.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was just looking at the pages today and thinking, I better get moving on this.