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Or like Sally always made them fly and Joe was like really good at approaching birds.

That would have skewed the data.

Maybe women remind birds of children.

Oh, that's interesting.

And maybe children are terrifying to birds because they're unpredictable.

I know my dog barks at small children all the time, no matter what, because all of his interactions with small children have been terrifying to me.

No.

My friend has a small child and her dog does not care what she does to him.

And I'm always like this is bad that your dog puts up with so much because the next dog your kid comes across will not.

My guess is it doesn't matter that they did thousands of approaches when there were only eight people.

It does seem artifactual.

These are bird researchers, right?

Yeah.

You're so right, Steve.

Like a lot of urban birds, especially like corvids, they remember people.

Yeah.

Like individual people.

So if these bird researchers have ever done any naturalistic bird research before, these encounters might've been with birds that know them.

Yeah.

Yeah.