Cari Cesarotti

The fact that there are so many open questions and no one beautiful theory like we had for supersymmetry sort of explains them all to me means that we should just be explorers and we should be kind of agnostic and just do experiments in which we can sort of get the most return on our money in terms of just seeing new things.

The fact that there are so many open questions and no one beautiful theory like we had for supersymmetry sort of explains them all to me means that we should just be explorers and we should be kind of agnostic and just do experiments in which we can sort of get the most return on our money in terms of just seeing new things.

So going to that energy frontier, having a clean environment, getting high luminosity, that to me, is how we're going to get unstuck in particle physics. So muon colliders being the fastest way, the cleanest way, and a really novel way to see things that we've never seen before makes it something that I feel like we have to invest.

So going to that energy frontier, having a clean environment, getting high luminosity, that to me, is how we're going to get unstuck in particle physics. So muon colliders being the fastest way, the cleanest way, and a really novel way to see things that we've never seen before makes it something that I feel like we have to invest.

I know. I think so much of physics, you know, there's like the meme that they have, the midwit meme, right? Where it's like the bell curve and then you have like someone saying something stupid on one side and then someone saying something a little bit educated in the middle and someone saying something, the same stupid thing, but with a lot of wisdom.

I know. I think so much of physics, you know, there's like the meme that they have, the midwit meme, right? Where it's like the bell curve and then you have like someone saying something stupid on one side and then someone saying something a little bit educated in the middle and someone saying something, the same stupid thing, but with a lot of wisdom.

And that to me is physics in a nutshell, right? It's like when you first start physics, you're like, oh my God, like... the detectors underground, like what if the ground shakes? And then you're like, no, come on. People have gyroscopes and there's so much engineering and the machine is so heavy. And then you're like, Oh no, but the ground shaking does in fact cause problems.

And that to me is physics in a nutshell, right? It's like when you first start physics, you're like, oh my God, like... the detectors underground, like what if the ground shakes? And then you're like, no, come on. People have gyroscopes and there's so much engineering and the machine is so heavy. And then you're like, Oh no, but the ground shaking does in fact cause problems.

Um, and this to me is, is the same thing with like, yeah, space use and energy efficiency. Um, At Fermilab, they're literally trying to plan what energy they can reach at a muon collider, given the amount of space we have at Fermilab. Because if you don't own the space, you can't put a collider there, it turns out.

Um, and this to me is, is the same thing with like, yeah, space use and energy efficiency. Um, At Fermilab, they're literally trying to plan what energy they can reach at a muon collider, given the amount of space we have at Fermilab. Because if you don't own the space, you can't put a collider there, it turns out.

If you are okay with us tunneling into your basement and you live in Batavia, again, please call. But yeah, you just... You run into mountains, you run into underground rivers, you run into state borders. And so you just can't build an arbitrarily big machine and expect that, yeah, you as a scientist are immune to property law.

If you are okay with us tunneling into your basement and you live in Batavia, again, please call. But yeah, you just... You run into mountains, you run into underground rivers, you run into state borders. And so you just can't build an arbitrarily big machine and expect that, yeah, you as a scientist are immune to property law.

Um, so that's, that's something silly and also just the cost of building a tunnel tunnels are so expensive. Oh my goodness. So the smaller you can get it, the cheaper it can be. Um, and again, it's not, we don't live in a fantasy world where every scientific thing worth doing is funded.

Um, so that's, that's something silly and also just the cost of building a tunnel tunnels are so expensive. Oh my goodness. So the smaller you can get it, the cheaper it can be. Um, and again, it's not, we don't live in a fantasy world where every scientific thing worth doing is funded.

So if you could have something with a smaller tunnel that gives you a whole bunch of physics results, that's probably the way to go, you know? And with energy, I mean, I don't know how political we get on your podcast. As political as we want to get. I mean, the whole Russia-Ukraine war, that is zapping Europe of all of its energy.

So if you could have something with a smaller tunnel that gives you a whole bunch of physics results, that's probably the way to go, you know? And with energy, I mean, I don't know how political we get on your podcast. As political as we want to get. I mean, the whole Russia-Ukraine war, that is zapping Europe of all of its energy.

And the LHC is even having reduced run capacity because there's just less energy to be had in Europe. And quite frankly, if you need to choose between warming people's houses and colliding protons, I understand that tough sacrifice we have to make. So yeah, we live in a world where there's global warming and there's war and there's territorial issues.

And the LHC is even having reduced run capacity because there's just less energy to be had in Europe. And quite frankly, if you need to choose between warming people's houses and colliding protons, I understand that tough sacrifice we have to make. So yeah, we live in a world where there's global warming and there's war and there's territorial issues.

And the fact that we are scientists doesn't put us above any of these issues. And we still have to be responsible stewards of public money in space.

And the fact that we are scientists doesn't put us above any of these issues. And we still have to be responsible stewards of public money in space.