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Cari Cesarotti

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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

Right, the cooling or the acceleration around the actual ring is hard because, again, that requires an entirely new mechanism for accelerating things quickly. And then even just reconstructing the collisions is hard. Because again, you have all these decay products shooting off of it.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

Right, the cooling or the acceleration around the actual ring is hard because, again, that requires an entirely new mechanism for accelerating things quickly. And then even just reconstructing the collisions is hard. Because again, you have all these decay products shooting off of it.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

And how do you make sure that your detector isn't constantly overwhelmed by the electrons and neutrinos coming out of these decaying muons? How do you actually see the physics of the collisions and not just the physics of muons decaying? So that's also hard. And then of course, yeah, neutrino death beam. Let's stay away from that phrasing. The neutrino radiation can be mitigated with wiggles.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

And how do you make sure that your detector isn't constantly overwhelmed by the electrons and neutrinos coming out of these decaying muons? How do you actually see the physics of the collisions and not just the physics of muons decaying? So that's also hard. And then of course, yeah, neutrino death beam. Let's stay away from that phrasing. The neutrino radiation can be mitigated with wiggles.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

Yeah. And there's also even a whole bunch of physicists that figure out how the magnets will bend the muons. Right. So like really every sort of difficult problem we have, there's an entire specialty dedicated towards solving the problem. That being said, we definitely are a bit human power limited at this point.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

Yeah. And there's also even a whole bunch of physicists that figure out how the magnets will bend the muons. Right. So like really every sort of difficult problem we have, there's an entire specialty dedicated towards solving the problem. That being said, we definitely are a bit human power limited at this point.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

So if you're out there and you say, man, the thing I would love in life the most is to accelerate muons. Oh, my God, please call us. Yeah.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

So if you're out there and you say, man, the thing I would love in life the most is to accelerate muons. Oh, my God, please call us. Yeah.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

Yeah, if you are 10 and you want to be a part of the most exciting human experiment ever made, please stay in school. We need you.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

Yeah, if you are 10 and you want to be a part of the most exciting human experiment ever made, please stay in school. We need you.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

Yeah, so I mean... I think there's a lot of ways to answer this question and I think all of them are kind of equally valid. So I think the most obvious answer that you can have is we are scientists and we want to know if you can do something, right?

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

Yeah, so I mean... I think there's a lot of ways to answer this question and I think all of them are kind of equally valid. So I think the most obvious answer that you can have is we are scientists and we want to know if you can do something, right?

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

So this is a kind of collider that we have theorized and there's no fundamental showstopper that would suggest that this is a deeply impossible task to do. So the fact that this is just a scientific challenge to see if you can collide muons. And this could open up an entire new generation of colliders, which are really effectively microscopes for the fundamental interactions.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

So this is a kind of collider that we have theorized and there's no fundamental showstopper that would suggest that this is a deeply impossible task to do. So the fact that this is just a scientific challenge to see if you can collide muons. And this could open up an entire new generation of colliders, which are really effectively microscopes for the fundamental interactions.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

The fact that this is a possibility, to me, is worth doing. If you can really open up an entirely new way to do a physics experiment, that's awesome. That in itself is very cool.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

The fact that this is a possibility, to me, is worth doing. If you can really open up an entirely new way to do a physics experiment, that's awesome. That in itself is very cool.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

In terms of understanding sort of the fundamental problems that we talked about in the beginning, again, what's exciting about muon colliders is this was kind of, if the technology can work, which I understand is a preposterously big asterisk to put on all of this, but if the technology can work, this is by far the fastest way to take us, the fastest and the most energy efficient and compact way to take us to that energy frontier.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

In terms of understanding sort of the fundamental problems that we talked about in the beginning, again, what's exciting about muon colliders is this was kind of, if the technology can work, which I understand is a preposterously big asterisk to put on all of this, but if the technology can work, this is by far the fastest way to take us, the fastest and the most energy efficient and compact way to take us to that energy frontier.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

So given that we are kind of stumbling in the dark right now in terms of understanding where the Higgs comes from, what dark matter is, do neutrinos get mass from the same mechanism or a different one? Is there anything new about the standard model? Are there fourth generation particles? That one's a little bit wacky, but...

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

So given that we are kind of stumbling in the dark right now in terms of understanding where the Higgs comes from, what dark matter is, do neutrinos get mass from the same mechanism or a different one? Is there anything new about the standard model? Are there fourth generation particles? That one's a little bit wacky, but...