Carl Dilena

And I think, you know, unfortunately, the process that went through to get there was...

Yeah, difficult, unfortunate, and had a much bigger impact than I think it should have had if it was handled in a different way.

Look, it's a strange one, because I sat through all the evidence of the first tribunal hearing, and I was quite surprised, to be honest, with the finding.

And, you know, we consulted with various people and, you know, including two former court judges who thought the first decision was a shambles and should be appealed and should be overturned.

And that was the situation we were dealing with from a legal perspective.

But I think there was a reluctance on the appeals board to overturn something that a tribunal's done, especially when it relates to assessing witnesses that they can't reassess, so they can't actually overturn that.

It almost seemed to be that they saw the injustice in perhaps what might have happened and were trying to rectify that, but that's purely speculation on my part.

This is your town.

This is your station.

This is Waitley.

Yeah, thanks, Gerard.

Great to have a chat.

last night, I think just before Caro was going to air with it.

I think at least she'd done the courtesy and called Ross and given him a heads up and gave him a chance to give his version of events, which was good.

But yeah, I had no line of sight of it before then.

Well, I think the good thing in seeing the way it all panned out was it was a pretty innocent oversight by Ross, not meaning any harm.

It shows that he's running a pretty safe environment with our First Nations boys where they were comfortable to raise it with him and discuss it and just sort it out harmoniously.

So I think they just sorted it out between themselves like any

any mishap, and, you know, it was a positive outcome.

So I don't think, even though, you know, Ross said, yeah, he was very emotional about it because the last thing he wants to do is upset our First Nations players, who he's very close with.