Carl E. Douglas

This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast.

Dan, it's always a pleasure being with you and your team.

What I've seen over the last month is consistent with what I've seen over the last 45 years

of representing families like Renee Goode and Alex Pretty, who have been victimized by law enforcement.

Let me start by saying, Dan, being a cop is tough, but not everyone is good at it.

I've had cases of people being shot behind the steering wheels.

I've had cases of people being injured during protests.

I've had trials last year and the year before in Los Angeles.

from protesters who've been injured.

I know that every state in America has an organization called POST, Peace Officers Standards and Training.

And there's a training program for POST in every state.

That training program is six months long.

By comparison, the training program of ICE is 42 days.

It is not possible for even the best trained post officers to deal with the stress

and the tension that comes when American protesters are against you.

Cops are human too.

They lose their tempers.

They don't like ice.

They don't like having their evenings disrupted because there are people with whistles outside of their hotel in a foreign city.

So tensions are tough.