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Carl Kinsella

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Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

I mean, it doesn't seem very plausible.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

And so by doing away with that three-day wait period, we would expect that, you know, there's probably quite a lot of women at the moment, and it's obviously very hard to gather statistics on this, but who might be pushed because of the three-day wait period might be pushed out of the 12 weeks and therefore can't actually access abortion services.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

And so it seems like a very positive thing that this would be done away with in terms of access to abortion in Ireland.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

It's interesting, partly because this bill was brought by Sinn Féin.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

And a few weeks ago, people will remember, we actually discussed it on the podcast, and Sock Dems had brought a similar bill that was done away with the three-day wait period.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

And at that time, Sinn Féin abstained from it.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

At that time Sinn Féin had already been planning to bring forward this bill and the reason they abstained from the previous one was because it also included a provision for expanding access to abortions for situations whereby there is fatal fecal abnormality involved.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

Currently under Irish legislation

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

Fatal fetal abnormality, and this is obviously, you know, grim to talk about, but it only covers cases in which the fetus is expected to die within 28 days of being born.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

And the Sockdams bill would have expanded that definition further.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

beyond 28 days.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

So this bill that has just passed doesn't include that at all.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

And Sinn Féin, that extra provision was why Sinn Féin abstained.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

And Gav Riley actually posted quite a good explainer a couple of weeks ago as to why Sinn Féin kind of held these different positions at different times, it seems.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

And it is because Sinn Fein's stance on abortion is determined by their Ardash, and there needs to be a vote in their Ardash to change any policy or approach that they have towards abortion legislation.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

And they have never voted on the expansion of the fecal-fetal abnormality definition, which ultimately tied the hands of...

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

Sinn Fein TDs a couple of weeks ago when there was the Sock Dems bill.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

But at the Ardash, they have voted on doing away with the three-day waiting period.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

So they're happy to move forward with that.

Catch Up with Louise McSharry
News Catch-Up: Abortion Waiting Period, Peter Thiel's Conference and Decency in Politics

It's also interesting that some Fianna Gael and Fianna Fáil government TDs voted with Sinn Fein on this, but moved the three-day wait, including Micheál Martin and Simon Harris.