Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing

Carl Zimmer

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
See mentions of this person in podcasts
929 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

Spontaneous generation is a theory.

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

So aerobiology, among many, many other things, destroyed this idea that life could spontaneously burst into existence.

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

Not quite.

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

So he had these ideas about what it would take to actually show that some particular pathogen, a germ, actually caused a disease.

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

And that involved isolating it from patients, culturing it outside of them, and then actually

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

experimentally infecting an animal and showing the symptoms again.

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

And he did that with things like anthrax and tuberculosis.

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

He nailed that.

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

But then when it came to cholera, there was a huge outbreak in Egypt, and people were still battling over what caused cholera.

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

Was it miasma?

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

Was it corruption in the air?

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

Or was it, as Koch and others believe, some type of bacteria?

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

And he found a particular kind of bacteria in the stool of people who were dying or dead of cholera.

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

and he could culture it, and he consistently found it, and, you know, when he injected animals with it, it just didn't quite work.

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

Yeah, they really are.

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

And although, you know, by the time they had died, you know, around 1960,

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

They were pretty much forgotten already.

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

And yet, in the 1930s, the two of them, first at Harvard and then at the University of Pennsylvania, did some incredible work to actually challenge

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

this idea that that airborne infection was not anything real or at least nothing really to worry about because once the miasmas have been cleared away people who embrace the germ theory of disease said look we've got cholera and water we've got yellow fever and mosquitoes we've got syphilis and sex we have all these ways that germs can get from one person to the next

Ground Truths
Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

We don't need to worry about the air anymore.