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Carl Zimmer

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

and he could culture it, and he consistently found it, and, you know, when he injected animals with it, it just didn't quite work.

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

Yeah, they really are.

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

And although, you know, by the time they had died, you know, around 1960,

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

They were pretty much forgotten already.

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

And yet, in the 1930s, the two of them, first at Harvard and then at the University of Pennsylvania, did some incredible work to actually challenge

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

this idea that that airborne infection was not anything real or at least nothing really to worry about because once the miasmas have been cleared away people who embrace the germ theory of disease said look we've got cholera and water we've got yellow fever and mosquitoes we've got syphilis and sex we have all these ways that germs can get from one person to the next

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

We don't need to worry about the air anymore.

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

Relax.

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

And William Wells thought, I don't know if that's true.

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

And he actually invented a new device for actually sampling the air, a very clever kind of centrifuge.

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

And he started to discover, actually, there's a lot of stuff floating around in the air.

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

And then he then, with a medical student of his, Richard Riley, started to develop a physical model.

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

How does this happen?

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

Well...

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

You and I are talking.

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

As we are talking, we are expelling tiny droplets.

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

And those droplets can potentially contain pathogens.

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

We can sneeze out big droplets or cough them too.

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

Really big droplets might fall to the floor, but lots of other droplets will float.

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Carl Zimmer: Air-Borne and the Big Miss With Covid

They might be pushed along by our breath, like in a cloud, or they just may be so light, they just resist gravity.