Carl Zimmer

It could just keep going, going.

It just keeps on going.

And so in 2018, she gets up at one of these TEDMED talks and gives this very impressive talk with lots of pictures.

And I would say the world didn't really listen.

I think there's a whole world of psychological research to be done on why people accept or don't accept scientific research.

And I'm not just talking about the public.

This is a question about how science itself works.

Because there were lots of scientists who looked at the claims that Lindsay Maher and others made about the

Sky Valley Corral outbreak and said, I don't know.

I'm not convinced.

You know, you didn't culture viable virus from the air.

How do you really know?

You know, really, I'm not making I'm not.

Like, you know, people have said that in print.

So it does raise the question of, a deep question, I think, about, you know, how does science, you know, judge what the right standard of proof is to interpret things like how diseases spread and also how to set public health policy.

But you're certainly right that...

that, you know, and March 10th, there was this outbreak.

And it's by the end of March, it had started to make news.

And because the public health workers were figuring out all the people who were sick and so on.

And people like Lindsay Ma were like, this kind of looks like airborne to me.