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Carol Leonnig

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
448 total appearances

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Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And during this time, Garland calls him and says, would you take the job if I offer it to you tomorrow?

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Not realizing how damaged, how devastated really physically Jack Smith is.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And there's a question about whether or not Jack can take the oath of office.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

under all these painkillers he's taking.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And he decides on his own to dismiss himself from the hospital against medical advice and stops taking the medication so he can properly take the oath without any question about his faculties.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

He goes on to push his team with incredible rigor to bring these cases.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

But back to your other point about this isn't a good look,

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

It ends up being really terrible because even though Jack Smith and his team are sprinting to make decisions and to bring the cases they think are justified, Donald Trump is falsely claiming that the only reason he's being prosecuted now in 2023 with a trial in 2024 is because a left-wing radical DOJ wants to help Biden block him from winning reelection.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

You know, it's such a critical moment.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And I think I'd like to take you into a couple of the rooms where it happened here.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Because the Supreme Court, first off, immediately accelerates one case and postpones another.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

They accelerate a case in this junction immediately.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

in 2024 to hear an argument about whether or not Donald Trump should be disqualified and struck from the Colorado state ballot for reelection because he's been accused of being engaged in an insurrection.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And that insurrectionists can't run for president.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

The Supreme Court accelerates on an emergency basis hearing that case.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

But they decide at the same time not to rush on hearing the immunity case.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And this causes consternation inside the Department of Justice, inside Jack Smith, the special counsel's office, and inside the chambers of trial, Judge Tanya Chutkin, who's supposed to hear this case.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

She and her chief judge have been planning security for the event.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

But when they see the Supreme Court is slow walking a decision on immunity, she knows that there's going to have to be an appeal again of whatever decision they have.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And they stop worrying about having a trial at that moment.