Carol Roth

I want to get to Gail because Gail's perspective on this is exactly what I've seen from a lot of people, including people like Joe Rogan.

But listen to this.

Gail says there has to be a way to get the Minnesota authorities to heal and support federal law without using the Insurrection Act.

Using it will just fuel the Hitler narrative about Trump.

And I have conservative friends who are buying into that narrative.

Threat to the world.

Threat to democracy.

Silly greasy pig.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

So I think that you're absolutely right that this is massive chaos, particularly if they say that the administration has to do refunds, because from an administrative standpoint, both at the federal level, but then also trickling down to all of the businesses who may have passed tariffs

onto their customers, in some cases, transparently.

The undoing of that is going to be just mass, mass chaos, which is why I think we could very well be in for a hybrid ruling, one where they say, okay, you don't have the emergency powers, but we're going to not make this retroactive.

This is going to be a go forward.

We're putting the stake in the ground right now.

And so from that standpoint,

I don't think it's as much chaos as you do, Glenn.

And I'm not usually the one that's talking you off the ledge.

I'm usually the one pushing you.

Let me potentially talk you off the ledge and throw some good possibilities out there, which again is a little reversal of roles.

From a foreign policy standpoint, I understand that trade has been a lever, but the strength of Trump