The Glenn Beck Program
Best of the Program | Guests: Brad Meltzer & Carol Roth | 1/16/26
16 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is the Insurrection Act and why is it being discussed?
On the podcast today, just a great one you don't want to miss. I spend the first hour of the program on the Insurrection Act. Should it be used to maintain order, gain order or not? This is a constitutional act.
imperative that we answer this without a team trump or a team democrat hat on so i take both cases not a straw man argument i take both give you the best argument for both sides then we discuss it we take the poll from you at glenbeck.com and we went to our founders library with george ai what did the founders believe about this and i think you'll be surprised then we have brad melzer on who has written a new book the viper he is one of my favorite interviews
He talks about a secret that I've never heard, and nobody knows what it said, but a guy who was on one of the planes on 9-11 that actually wrote a very important note, needed it to survive the plane crash, so he ate it. Doctors found it in the autopsy, and they will not say what it was, but they delivered it to the authorities. That's an amazing story he has.
And good and bad news with Carol Roth on the economy. What is coming? What are the jobs you need to look for? What does the tariff mess mean? And also we get into the Fed. Ron Paul, head of the Fed.
Chapter 2: How might invoking the Insurrection Act impact protests in Minnesota?
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So I have some good news on the, uh, you know, on the economic front, unemployment claims unexpectedly have fallen to 198,000. I'd like to know more about that. Uh, mortgage rates have fallen to a three-year low. It's we're now at a 6% mortgage rate, which is a really good bad news. Americans are filing for more bankruptcy. Um, But there is a story behind that.
The baby boomer is not the one that is the median American homebuyer. So some of that is not right. And there was a A list that came out today, it's in our show prep, about the jobs that you should be training for if you're young. And it is amazing to me because when everybody was saying learn to code, get into AI and everything else, I was saying don't do that. That's all going to be covered.
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Chapter 3: What chaos could arise from potential changes to Trump's tariffs?
Carol, I just was talking about tariffs and what the Supreme Court is going to decide one way or another. But if they decide to say the president doesn't have a right or ability to do any of these things, this is massive chaos. Am I right or wrong?
So I think that you're absolutely right that this is massive chaos, particularly if they say that the administration has to do refunds, because from an administrative standpoint, both at the federal level, but then also trickling down to all of the businesses who may have passed tariffs onto their customers, in some cases, transparently.
The undoing of that is going to be just mass, mass chaos, which is why I think we could very well be in for a hybrid ruling, one where they say, okay, you don't have the emergency powers, but we're going to not make this retroactive. This is going to be a go forward. We're putting the stake in the ground right now. And so from that standpoint, I don't think it's as much chaos as you do, Glenn.
And I'm not usually the one that's talking you off the ledge. I'm usually the one pushing you.
Well, but you're you're talking about economic. I'm talking about global chaos. I'm talking about because all these tariffs, they're all levers to change the world.
into our direction so all of these agreements that he's got now everybody's going to look like president doesn't president can't do what he says he wants to do so he loses that and all of these things that have pushed rare minerals our way it's all up for grabs again and it's going to make China look stable
Let me potentially talk you off the ledge and throw some good possibilities out there, which again is a little reversal of roles. From a foreign policy standpoint, I understand that trade has been a lever, but the strength of Trump
And the military and, you know, sort of his unpredictability and his suite of tools has been absolutely unparalleled from, you know, helping to free the hostages in Gaza to the surgical strike in Iran to the capturing of Maduro.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Carol Roth provide about the economy?
I mean, everybody is on notice. And I don't think a ruling on tariffs is going to undo the absolute strength that we have shown on the world stage from that standpoint.
I hope you're right.
Furthermore, and obviously, you know, I am not a legal expert, but in my research, you have folks who do these things, research these things like Cato. believe that there are other tariff options that are not emergency tariff options.
So if it is struck down, there is no doubt in my mind that the administration has already decided whether it's the Trade Expansion Act for national security reasons, whether it's the balance of payment issues. There are multiple sections of trade acts where they can pivot and So, yes, it's a setback and one that, in my opinion, is an unforced error.
But I think that there is so much strength from this administration and other areas and other options that it won't be as bad. Yes, it'll be chaotic. It won't be a good thing, but I do think that it'll be.
I hope you're right. You know, I talked to the president, you know, weeks ago when this was being argued. And I said, what happens if that goes away? And he said, oh, there are other ways we can deal with this. I'm not that concerned. I think they are concerned, but they were prepared for this going either way. And I do think that the reason why the ā
The court decision hasn't come out this week, which they talked about maybe coming out this week. I think one of the reasons why they're delaying is they're trying to to split the cat, if you will, and make sure they don't do complete, you know, just devastation to everything. Trying to find a way that kind of keeps the Constitution.
The Constitution gives the president powers that he might need and more importantly, give everybody a chance to find a way out.
Yes. Yes. In time to prepare. The longer it goes on, the more it's creating signals to the administration and the more that they're able to prepare for the outcome.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of SCOTUS decisions on tariffs?
Maybe it's a way to open up an audit. Maybe it's a way to actually get to something else by coming in through this route.
If anybody could do it, he is the guy to, if he wanted to, to get that done. Tell me about Warsh, the guy who looks like the president may select.
OK, so this is huge breaking news. Per CNBC, the president made comments today and the front runner for the position was Trump's top economic advisor, a different Kevin, Kevin Hassett, that we all know had the director of the National Economic Council.
Now Trump is saying, well, you know, Kevin, I really like to keep you in this place, which made everyone go, oh, Kevin, you know, Hassett's not the top pick. It's Kevin Warsh. And the concern with Hassett is that he's too tied into the administration, that he would be sort of a wonky economist that's doing Trump's bidding.
Kevin Warsh is somebody who is a former Wall Street guy, former M&A banker that went into politics. He was appointed to the Board of Governors of the Fed by George W. Bush. And so he has that experience, but he also is sort of a liaison. So during the Great Recession financial crisis, he was the one who was liaising between the Fed and the banks and the White House and creating that.
So he's seen, even though he's somebody who wants to lower interest rates and he's aligned with a lot of the Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah, I know the market will like that.
That's not the kind of guy I want. I want somebody in there who's like, you know what I'd really like to do is set fire to this whole thing.
Right. You want Ron Paul in there.
Yeah, I would love Ron Paul in there. Just handle it, right? I would. I would. So let me talk to you about, quickly, I just want to run through a whole bunch of topics, the wealth tax in California. If this thing passes, I mean, this is how stupid these people are. They have built Silicon Valley. They are leading the AI revolution, all of that. Then they attack China.
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Chapter 6: How does Brad Meltzer's new book relate to current events?
OK, they're also covering for themselves. Part of the reason why the feds are in Minnesota is because of this massive fraud screen screen and scheme that he helped put together. Okay, the other thing is the governor, I mean, Mayor Fry of Minnesota, he was speaking, I think it was yesterday, and he has the chief of police behind him.
And if you are watching at glenbeck.com, you need to see the face of the police chief when he says it. But listen to what he says. Go ahead. Mayor Fry, do you have it?
And we're in a position right now where we have residents that are asking the very limited number of police officers that we have to fight ICE agents on the street, to stand by their neighbors. We cannot be at a place right now in America where we have two governmental entities that are literally fighting one another. Amen. Why are we put in this position?
We're put in this position because we have approximately 600... Stop.
It doesn't matter who's put you in this position. You don't do it. You don't do it. And at least he was saying, but you'll notice that he was couching this with, hey, they want people in Minnesota, want the police to join in and fight. But we understand why you feel that way. We understand, but we can't.
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Chapter 7: What unique story does Brad Meltzer share about 9/11?
And you can see it in the face of the police chief thinking like you are out of your mind. What are you doing? Okay.
Okay.
The Federal Immigration Enforcement, ICE, the operation in Minnesota, an ICE agent was attacked two days ago with a shovel and a broom handle by multiple suspects. He was carrying out an arrest. He responded in defense of his life, shot one of the guys in the leg. The men have since been identified as illegal immigrants. What a surprise from Venezuela. The first one was from Venezuela.
The second one was from Venezuela. But the third one was from Venezuela. And they were beating the ICE officer. Now, who arrested them? Did the police come and arrest? Because that's the police job. Police should have been there and said, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. We have this under control. You're under arrest. Take them in.
And then by law, according to the Insurrection Act, it wouldn't have been a problem if they would have said, we're not cooperating with ICE. We're not going to turn them over to ICE. Might be a problem for you and me, et cetera, et cetera. But my understanding from reading the Constitution, they cannot participate, but they can't actively thwart. Okay.
They can't get involved and thwart and work against the United States government. And once there is violent attacks on any federal agents, once the federal government cannot carry out its federal duty because the court system or the system of the police or the governor is thwarting them and actually obstructing them, then you have insurrection. Okay.
Imagine if you were standing in the middle of a crowd and you're chanting, block the feds, stop them at all costs. That's what's happening on the streets, except it's going beyond speech. It's not a peaceful protest. Real people are physically interfering with federal agents conducting sanctioned enforcement actions.
Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly and freedom of petition means peaceful. Once you start actively engaging, that's out the window. Then you layer on top of that the actions of the state leadership from the governor and everybody else. It seems like they're encouraging all of this stuff, not condemning any of this stuff. You've got a real problem.
So the perspective of the president and his advisors, there comes a point when the rule of law is under threat. When you have federal agents being attacked while attempting apprehensions, crowds that have repeatedly thrown objects at officers,
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