Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

And that's what I did in my teaching in my classroom.

And it was great.

There was really never an issue in my own classes, even though we got into the most controversial classes.

subjects.

So I'll just keep trying to stick to the evidence and always remembering these are people's lives, you know, and being compassionate and emphasizing that biology is not destiny.

There's a huge amount of variation.

And it's perfectly normal to be a little boy who wants to play with dolls like that.

It's even hard for me to talk about because it's heartbreaking that

People feel stigmatized for not being sex typical.

But that's something where if you understand the science, you understand variation and you understand what is normal.

And there's this spectrum, a huge spectrum of behavior across the sexes.

There's just only two sexes and we should learn to deal with that kind of reality.

Thank you so much for having me.

It was great.