Caroline Foran

And I was writing about anxiety because that's all I was going through.

And it was actually a very lovely, safe place to be because I didn't have to pretend like I wasn't anxious.

And I was very clear about that from day one.

I was like, I've been having a really hard time, but I'm still really reliable.

I'm a good writer.

They're lovely in there though, aren't they?

Yeah.

And so as part of that, like there'd be some perks, but I was, at the time I was just going to work, doing my bit and getting home and just like stepping outside if I needed to.

And I mean, I was still having panic attacks, but

I was very much like at the very start of my journey.

But one of the CBT things was, well, look, why don't you try and go on this trip with your mom?

And it was like an overnight, two nights or something, I think.

And bring the anxiety with you and let's observe like the thoughts and the feelings and what happens and how you're preempting this will go and what you're afraid, like what's the worst case scenario?

And then like, well, what actually happened and what could we tweak there?

All these different things.

And I remember feeling it was so challenging because I physically felt so

like, I'm doing this.

Like, it's not just, I'm not just theorizing about it.

It's like talking about a broken leg or reading a book about physio and not actually doing the physio.

Do you know, I needed to do the stuff to be like, okay.