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Caroline Fraser

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
763 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

They closed the plant in 1986.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

They claimed that they cleaned the inside of the smokestack, but โ€“

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

So, yeah, in Tacoma, they carted away tons of soil.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

They took, you know, they went into people's yards.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

They tested all of the yards and told people, OK, you're going to have to replace the soil.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

And so, yeah, they went in and they, by this point, ASARCO had declared bankruptcy and the EPA eventually had to take over the whole thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

But they, you know, the EPA got an unprecedented environmental bankruptcy settlement out of ASARCO, which was close to $2 billion.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

I think it was the highest settlement that they'd ever gotten.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

But it had to clean up about 20 different Superfund sites, including the one in Idaho, in Coeur d'Alene, which they've been working on that for decades.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

years and still haven't finished.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

But in Tacoma, they actually did replace the soil in many, many people's yards.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

But, you know, they run out of money.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

I mean, I think on places like Vashon, a lot of that was on the southern part.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

I think you could request soil replacement in some of these places, but it wasn't necessarily guaranteed, depending on where you live.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

Yeah, and of course they have to take that soil somewhere.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

So in Tacoma, they took it to some special landfill.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

But, I mean, one of the really crazy things that happened as a result of closing the smokestack there was that they took that arsenic kitchen that I was talking about, the one that had been up in Everett, and some of the most contaminated parts of the buildings that were part of the whole smelter compound,

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

And the Osarko promised that they were going to take all that stuff and put it somewhere else.