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Caroline Fraser

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
763 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

I don't know where they were going to put it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

But they said they were going to take it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

But then they went bankrupt.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

And so they didn't remove it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

And instead, they created this very bizarre kind of

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

pit where they put all the worst stuff, including a bunch of the soil, the contaminated soil from Everett and the arsenic kitchen, and they put it in a sort of super heavy-duty plastic-lined

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

you know, garbage bag, essentially.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

I mean, if you can imagine like the largest garbage bag in the world, they put all this stuff in it and they capped it with soil.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

And that thing is sitting there, you know, still, even though they have now, you know, they cleared off the whole area where the compound was, where the factories and the furnaces were, and they built condos on top of that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

But behind the condos is this giant hump of contaminated stuff in a giant plastic garbage bag.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

Well, there's a very small historical display with some photographs and materials about the smelter that's in one of the buildings on the way to the public bathroom.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

So presumably if the people who are buying condos there know anything about it, they probably are aware of the history.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

But they think it's โ€“

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

And in a sense, it has been cleaned up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

I mean, but... In a sense.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

Well, they have a lot of stuff that they've done.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

I mean, in the book, I talk about, you know, Frank Herbert, who wrote Dune, he was from Tacoma.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

And in fact, the stuff in Dune about the pollution and what has happened to the planet, you know, that he dramatized, a lot of that came from his disgust with the smelter.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

And a planet that had basically destroyed its whole environment.