Caroline Fraser

And now they have developed this whole little park.

The condos are on one end of this, what used to be the smelter property, and then on the other end, on top of this slag land.

The slag is the stuff that's left over after you've pulled all the metal out of the rocks.

There's the stuff that, once it's cooled off, looks like gravel, and it's called slag, but it isn't really gravel.

I mean, it's contaminated with all the stuff.

It's contaminated with arsenic and...

And so they built a park that's called Dune Park, and it's dedicated to Frank Herbert.

And it's this little walking trail.

And the whole thing, I think, is developed in such a way that it's kind of lined with plastic.

And there's a plastic liner, you know, on the

shores to keep stuff from leaking out.

And, like, if you live in one of those condos, you can't plant anything that will be larger than a, you know, small shrub, in part because of the plastic liner thing.

Yeah, it's wild.

That's so crazy.

I've never heard that there's polio that's asymptomatic.

Yeah, I think that a lot of this environmental stuff has become so overwhelming to people that they kind of tune it out.

It's like, what are we going to do about it?

There's nothing we can do, so let's just pretend it's not happening.

Yeah, I mean, that was one of the things in my mind when I kind of wanted to develop the whole thing about, you know, talking about serial killers, and violence and aggression and where that might have come from.

Because