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Caroline Fraser

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
763 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

I, you know, I wanted to talk about all that and I didn't want to just use it as a kind of Trojan horse to introduce all the stuff about pollution.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

But I did think it was a way to get people maybe to think about these issues differently.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

who might not otherwise want to do that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

And I think people are interested in the history of how they might have been exposed.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

When I did a reading up in Seattle a month or so ago, everybody was talking about where they grew up in relation to the smelter, like how close they were to it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

And, you know, what they might have experienced as a result.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

And that, I think, is one of the interesting things about the Tacoma story is that many poor people were directly exposed.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

You know, the people who worked at the smelter, they lived right around the smokestack.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

So they got the worst of it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

But there were a lot of other communities in the area, including Mercer Island, where I lived.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

grew up, which is now kind of a famously wealthy, you know, some of the, you know, Microsoft people have houses there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

Or, you know, I think Paul Allen had a house there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

And it was when I was a kid growing up there, it was a well-to-do upper middle class place.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

One of the things I look at in the book is some of the really bizarre crime that happened on the island at that time.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

That you wonder, was this, you know, in any way related to, you know, some of these things we're talking about, the rise in poverty?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

lead in the air from leaded gas because Mercer Island is crossed by I-90.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

I-90 comes down out of the Cascades and crosses Mercer Island, which is sitting in the middle of Lake Washington.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

And ends up in Seattle.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2360 - Caroline Fraser

And so Mercer Island had a lot of pollution from I-90.