Caroline Fraser

They don't know their dad.

They don't know who he is maybe.

Or they have a very bad relationship with the parents.

There's maybe abuse, physical abuse, sexual abuse.

We don't know that about Ted Bundy in terms of the abuse factor.

But he remains, I think, really puzzling to people for that reason because you don't see some of the usual signs with him.

Well, he talked a lot about, you know, various people were able to interview him.

The detective in King County in Seattle who was in charge of the investigation, he was actually quite young when he took this on.

I think it was his first major case as a detective that

He eventually was able to interview Ted Bundy in prison when he was on death row.

Bundy, for a variety of reasons, wouldn't talk about anything that he did except hypothetically in the third person because he was still trying to work the legal system.

And so he didn't want to admit to what he'd done.

I mean, it was sort of like O.J.

Simpson or something.

He would say, well, if somebody was going to do this, here's what he probably would have done.

And so there was a lot of that up until the very last days of Bundy's sojourn on death row.

And then he finally began confessing.

in the last two or three days in an attempt, I think, to get the governor interested in perhaps extending his life because he could give information about where bodies had been left and so forth.

But that didn't convince the governor of Florida.

Yeah, there really are, as I discovered, a really kind of extraordinary number.