Caroline Hyde

And you do something, like, who cares what you're doing?

You're just part of the problem.

It's always been emotionally difficult for me.

When we're thinking about where you stand, where U.S.

stands versus China, where does it in terms of drone technology?

We're in this context of a geopolitical strain that started this year off with Venezuela.

We look now to Russia.

How do you see China and the Taiwan question?

China has an incredibly strong drone industry.

It is largely a result of state intervention.

It's largely a result of industrial policy, of supply chain investments that the government has made, and even trade deals that China has made around the world to allow for these drones to freely fly out into other marketplaces.

Yeah, China has the best drone industry in the world.

It's not even close.

It's definitely a weakness that the United States has.

Now, you saw recently this ban on DJI drones.

The intention there is to try and fix that.

You can fix these things.

The US is capable of building drones.

It's just we aren't capable of competing with the labor laws, emissions laws, energy prices from coal plants, et cetera, that you see in China.

So I'm hoping that this ban on DJI drones results in a strong US drone market popping up to take its place over the next