Caroline Hyde

So I was shuttled into here through very long security lines and lots of people with screaming children trying to get to different destinations for their warm holidays.

This is the busy season.

How is it looking in terms of demand, given the fact that there were some hiccups in the past couple of months, but at this point people are getting back to what they originally had?

How long do you think it'll take before you start to actually turn profitable and sustain that?

Because 2025 was not the year for a lot of airlines.

Tough year for airlines.

There were a lot of issues.

And you talk about the government shutdown.

This has been a big discussion among a lot of the airline CEOs where they've said we just can't make up that kind of revenue.

So there will be some sort of hit.

Have you disclosed any kind of revenue loss as a result of some of the shutdowns?

Yeah, you somehow, being an airline CEO, probably wasn't in your bingo card that you'd be more focused on health care legislation with your fingers crossed heading into January.

I'm wondering how much you're hoping to attract a new class of customers versus capitalize on the ones that you have that might be willing and able to pay a little bit more with some of the new offerings.

It really does feel a little bit like the sharks and the jets when you speak to some of the airline industry CEOs where they talk about, you know, it's become a game of consolidation and it's become a game of the big fish really dominating the fields in a lot of different ways.

They say it's going to be very hard to be a more budget focused airline.

How do you fight back?

How do you sort of create a viable business model at a time when you do see this consolidation of profitability and travel in the biggest airlines?

You do have this cooperation with United.

You've been expanding in a host of different places.

Is that the template going forward?