Caroline Hyde

And Catherine, what's notable is the urgency with which this happened, correct?

Yes.

So earlier this week, many of these CEOs were already in D.C.

for the Financial Services Forum.

You have Brian Moynihan, you have the CEOs from Citi, Goldman, all of these big bank leaders that, again, would have already been participating in some form of meetings already around DC, but this one was meant to be something that was behind the scenes and a precautionary measure

something that is starting the discussion about the concerns that are being raised around these AI tech issues that are coming into view right now.

I think it's very early days and the next step after this initial meeting, and again, because the discussions are just starting, is how the banks deal with and prevent any further scrutiny that might come up from other advanced tech that they might either be implementing

or going to slowly be implementing in the future.

And look, it was interesting that Jamie Dimon wasn't there.

Seemingly a calendar conflict.

But he's already part of the Glass Wing project, as it's known.

Already, Mythos and the power of this AI model of Anthropic was well known.

And Anthropic itself had put it into the hands of 40 such partners, including JP Morgan, to ensure that they stress test, to ensure that they're on board.

So are these CEOs well aware of the power of these AI models?

Because look, OpenAI has been doing similar things to try and educate about the cyber concerns.

That's right.

There are guardrails, and that's really why these steps are being taken.

This is not just being widely disseminated to these companies or to the public, for that matter.

So these CEOs, I think, for the ones that were a part of this meeting, you have both the discussions of raising awareness, and then if you are already aware, what are you doing about it?

How are you taking steps to protect your data, your internal data that includes all of the data that you have on the U.S.