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Caryn Seidman-Becker

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1227 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

And I think those two things create that free cash flow and optionality.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

Look at Priceline.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

They bought bookings and active.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

Those were transformative acquisitions.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

But you need the free cash flow or the balance sheet to be able to do those things.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

And you need the management who has that foresight.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

I also think you've got to be decently paranoid.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

I prefer management teams that are humble, nose to the grindstone.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

I used to tell our management teams when I was an investor, like, you should just lever up and buy back stock.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

I don't know why you're not more levered.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

The optimal capital structure is X.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

When you run the business and you're responsible for all the employees and you're wanting to invest in the business or leave cash on the balance sheet for potential M&A or whatever, levering up doesn't necessarily feel like the great thing.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

Free cash flow and the optionality it creates

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

allows you to think more clearly.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

When COVID hit, that was a transformative time for Clear.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

We took $20 million, which at the time was our marketing budget, to zero on February 26th or 25th.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

We took our salaries to zero and we created a leave of absence plan for our ambassadors so that when it really happened on March 12th,

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

We were prepared and pivoted to creating health pass and connecting people to their test information and ultimately their vaccine information and connecting those data packets to professional sports leagues like the NHL so they could have the Stanley Cup, which they've never missed in all of their history, or to open table and resi for dinner reservations.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

It allows you to be offensive, not defensive.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Caryn Seidman-Becker: Rebuilding CLEAR - [Invest Like the Best, EP.432]

And that is a massive mindset shift.