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Casey Handmer

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Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

And it caused me to go and write a blog post.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

So this is a good way of thinking about it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

That's much more recent, yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

That was after dinner, I think.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

And to be fair, like, I usually am fairly clear in my blog posts if I'm posting or if I'm serious.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

But this one, actually, I'm dead serious on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

It's actually the one where I'm...

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

It's like the most out of the money bet as well.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

Like everyone else that I consider to be like a respectable forecaster in this area disagrees with me on it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

So that's one side.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

Well, so the grid, we know where the grid is expensive.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

It's a lot of wires strung up in like hard to reach places that are hard to maintain, especially as, you know, the workforce ages and regulations and all the rest and eminent domain and so on and so forth.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

Okay.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

So grid's not going to get cheaper anytime soon or easier to build.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

And if you look at the projections of like how much grid, you know, DOE would have us needing to build in the next 10 years versus how much actually being built, it's like, it's not even in the same order of magnitude.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

So you say, well, are we totally screwed?

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

The answer is no, we're not totally screwed because batteries actually do the same job that the grid does.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

But this is kind of weird to hear me out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

The grid transports power from one place to another.