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Casey Handmer

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748 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

So like we're going to start cutting checks by noon.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

Um, and, uh, and yeah, I think you could, you could ramp up pretty quickly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

A lot of technology already exists here.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

It's not like it has to be reinvented from scratch.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

It's mostly at a case of like putting in phone call to all the different manufacturers here in Germany and so on and saying, we need you to 10 exercise your factory starting today, blank check, go.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

It was, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

So if you look at XAI, which Elon is involved in, obviously, what are they actually focusing on right now?

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

Right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

They're focused on the chips, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

Because they understand like the key bottleneck is the chips, not the solar power, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

Because even if Trump puts in a 200% tariff on Chinese solar, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

And we're not able to bypass it via like Vietnam or something, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

It's still a bargain.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

It doesn't matter.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

If you need solar to run your data center, it doesn't hurt in terms of the overall cost picture.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

It doesn't matter at all.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

What matters is having the chips at competitive capabilities per chip and enough of them installed in your PCBs, in your data centers, hooked up to your liquid cooling, ready to go.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

And that's actually something that Elon and his companies are great at.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

It's figuring out this mass production, semi-automated mass production strategy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

They've got this facility in Texas, which is making the Starlink receivers completely automated.